. -- i'm not in favor of president obama's action against gun ownership. i support what rand paul said. people should be able to defend ourselves and defend our country against tyranny. i believe the founding fathers made that a key theme when they put that theythere. -- when they put that amendment there. they believe taking away rifles will reduce crime. if we look at countries like england and australia where they have totally banned weapons, the crime rate increased. host: where did you hear that? let me read this from the new york times this morning. what do you think? caller: i think that is just comparing gun for gun. what about stabbings or beatings or robberies or burglaries? england has the highest crime rates in europe. there are warnings for americans not to give up their gun rights, from over there. there's an individual who had a self-defense case in england to defend themself against two burglars. he shot and killed one of the individuals and he was convicted of murder for defending his own home on his own land. the individual who burglarize